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For the Norwegian-impaired / Sv: WikiFur på norsk?

« på: 13. mai, 2010, 20:32 »

There's usually no reason to lock pages, unless they get continuously vandalized (like the equivalent article on the English Wikipedia, or the English WikiFur's front page). Locking it also stops new users from editing, even if they've registered.

I suggest instead watching the page and setting it to email you on changes to watch pages in your preferences. That way you get to review changes as they are made by everyone.

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For the Norwegian-impaired / Sv: WikiFur på norsk?

« på: 15. mar, 2010, 15:19 »

My awesomeness must be documented!

There's an English article - you could always copy that. Probably out of date by now, though.

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For the Norwegian-impaired / Sv: WikiFur på norsk?

« på: 02. feb, 2010, 02:00 »

Write what you know! And if you don't know anything, go out and find some stuff that you can put in. ;-)

I suggest thinking of what would be useful to you, but is not yet available in one place. If it seems suitable, add it! Probably other people will find this information useful as well.

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For the Norwegian-impaired / Sv: WikiFur på norsk?

« på: 31. jan, 2010, 04:28 »

Also, this forum isn't specifically a fursuit forum, so not sure if it should be listed under Linker til fursuit sider.

Maybe I should consider signing up so I can start adding/changing stuff, too...

I'm surprised it's not Linker til furry sider. Fursuiting is just one part of what furry is about, after all.

You don't technically have to sign up to edit, but if you choose to do so, it only takes a moment.

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For the Norwegian-impaired / Sv: WikiFur på norsk?

« på: 25. jan, 2010, 20:24 »

i hope also other norwegians will find the way to WikiFur in future and support us with writing some articles!

Well, they will if they can find it! It does show up, but only if pages in Norwegian are searched. Perhaps you could add it here? I do not know the Norwegian Wikipedia policy for external links.

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For the Norwegian-impaired / Flayrah.com relaunched; offers news by furs, for furs

« på: 25. jan, 2010, 18:50 »

I recently relaunched the furry news site Flayrah.com. If you find the news there interesting, you can read it on RSS, LiveJournal or Twitter - and if you have anything to add, please feel free to login and submit your own news.

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For the Norwegian-impaired / Sv: WikiFur på norsk?

« på: 25. jan, 2010, 18:28 »

I have translated some pages about people. But is it wrong to do things like that when it is not about me? Should I stop doing the pages about people?

If we bothered to worry about whether it was wrong, we would never have written any of them in the first place.

If anyone has a problem with an article, let them say so - after it is written.

Wolftale and Montainafox: I have made you administrators as you have been contributing the most since the start. You should have the ability to delete pages and block users now, if necessary, and to edit the wiki interface, like the sidebar (at MediaWiki:Sidebar). See the special pages in the toolbox for more information.

Also, Norwegian has been promoted to the main list.

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For the Norwegian-impaired / Sv: WikiFur på norsk?

« på: 03. jan, 2010, 02:11 »

Btw, am I the only one that get this error when I try to upload something?;

Internal Error

DB connection error: Access denied for user 'no'at 'localhost' to database 'pool' (localhost)

I'm sorry; I've fixed this now. Please do upload any images you need, either locally or to pool.wikifur.com. I hope to get it using images from en.wikifur.com at some point, but this has not been done yet.

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For the Norwegian-impaired / Sv: WikiFur på norsk?

« på: 19. des, 2009, 01:14 »

OK! The Norwegian WikiFur is online. And very empty! Don't let that big white space scare you, though - it's easy to fill it.

I encourage everyone interested to get on there and start writing. Don't feel you have to wait for anyone to tell you what to do; be bold!

Here is some help for the wiki editing syntax - it is fairly simple, and you can copy the style from English or other languages.

If you do write about a topic that is covered in other languages, please place a language link to at least one other language at the bottom, like this:
[[en:Article name]]

This will help my bot link the article to the same topic in different languages.

If you want to write an article in nynorsk, please put Nynorsk: at the front of the article name. This will put it in the right namespace. (Amusingly, the wiki statistics are only available in nynorsk.)

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For the Norwegian-impaired / Sv: WikiFur på norsk?

« på: 15. des, 2009, 20:33 »

Have someone createt a norwegian wikifur yet?

No, nobody has requested that we open one yet. The offer still stands.

WikiLurv is now up to 200 articles, thanks in part to Farejobaldo. Though I will admit it is still not what I would call "active".

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For the Norwegian-impaired / Sv: WikiFur på norsk?

« på: 06. aug, 2009, 21:41 »

And as for the swedish wiki, quoting_mungo is really working her ass of
When she created Swedish Furry Forum, she made like 100 posts before anyone even registered.

This is always the way. People sometimes think that communities appear by magic. In practice it takes a lot of work to start something new. It is not exciting work, either. You have to talk to people, and build a lot of necessary things behind the scenes.

For a wiki, you also need content, so that people have something to add to. If you are lucky you can get someone to help you, but in most cases 95% of it will be up to you.

On the plus side, with a wiki others may still find your work useful, even if you are the only editor - just like a regular website. Forums, chats and the like tend to be a lot less useful without other participants, and so extra effort needs to be made to encourage others to join in.

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For the Norwegian-impaired / Sv: WikiFur på norsk?

« på: 23. jun, 2009, 23:10 »

Wikipedia only puts bokmål/riksmål on no.wikipedia.org, but they have another site for nynorsk. For us, it might be reasonable to allow a nynorsk article on the same wiki, as long as a bokmål article could be there too. Some articles might be written in nynorsk to start with if the topic (or author) is strongly connected with the dialect. An article in nynorsk is much better than no article at all.

((Technical details: One way to handle it would be to place nynorsk in a custom namespace with a template that linked users from the main namespace. If there was a bokmål article [[GreenReaper]], the nynorsk version would be at [[Nynorsk:GreenReaper]]. This would make it easy to find all nynorsk articles, and to move them if a separate site was created later.

We could add a template {{nn|GreenReaper}} to the top of the page [[GreenReaper]] that linked to the nynorsk version [[Nynorsk:GreenReaper]], and add {{nb|GreenReaper}} on that page to link back to [[GreenReaper]]. The nynorsk articles would link to nynorsk terms in the main namespace - so [[Nynorsk:GreenReaper]] would link to [[forlét]] - but that page would have a template that redirects the user to [[Nynorsk:Forlét]] if it exists, or [[forlot]] if it does not. With this arrangement, links would still point to the right place after a move. Of course, forlét is not a furry term, so it should be linked to Wikipedia or not at all, but you get the idea . . .))

The language dialect of the wiki interface itself is a user preference, so that part would not be a problem. You would just have to login.

Miles: Well, we want it to expand, right? A wiki can help people who are thinking about joining the fandom to learn while they are still in "lurk mode". It is much easier for them to join in if they already know about furry concepts, events and people. And while it is possible for them to search through topic-specific websites/forum posts/LiveJournal profiles/etc, wikis bring this information all together.

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For the Norwegian-impaired / Sv: WikiFur på norsk?

« på: 23. jun, 2009, 17:31 »

The 1000 is unique visits, not hits (there are about 4 hits per Norwegian-speaking user). Of course, it is possible that the Google Analytics cookies were cleared, but in that case people were still returning later to see more articles.

There is a difference of perhaps 100 visits between this month and last month. There is no noticeable spike and the number of hits remained about the same. I do not think Wikipedia had a large impact there.

It's certainly true that a founder is required, though I think there are other reasons specific to the Swedish community for the lack of editing by others. That is why I am here to ask you. I did not just want to put a site up and then have nobody edit. It needs a leader who speaks Norwegian, and who has a connection with the Norwegian community.

If even one person is truly interested in creating a Nynorsk furry wiki, I would help them. Perhaps that person will be you, if you feel more confident about it later. I am merely trying to be realistic: currently, far more visitors to WikiFur appear to use Bokmål, so a wiki using it as the language is likely to be more useful and has a better chance to attract contributors.

Wikipedia is important - no question. But it does not have to be the only game in town. Wikipedia and WikiFur serve different, somewhat-overlapping communities. I started WikiFur because Wikipedia was not interested in covering furry fandom to the depth that would be useful for us. They are not going to have articles on most individual furries, or a little Scandanavian furmeet - it would not be verifiable, for a start. Yet these articles would be interesting and useful to furry fans in Scandanavia. There are currently 125 furry articles on the English Wikipedia, but about 100 times as many in WikiFur.

I cannot say what would be more fun - that is up to you - but there's no reason you can't edit both. I edit on Wikipedia too; in fact I help with WikiProject Furry and the furry portal there. One editor may wear many hats. When I become tired with working on one site, I go to the other one.

We do have one wiki that supports the different dialects of Chinese. I do not know of a similar method of automatically translating between all Scandanavian languages, though; I agree that it would probably discourage people from editing the articles. You can translate articles between different languages yourself, and then link them together, in the same way that Wikipedia does - we link to both WikiLurv (with sv:) and TurriWiki (fi:). As these are completely separate sites, it would be harder to merge them.

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Introduksjoner / Sv: Små, grønne krusete skapning . . .

« på: 23. jun, 2009, 05:11 »

Husker jeg snakket med deg på Second life en gang (lenge siden nå =o)

   
Ahh, Second Life. Jeg forlot mitt land der - men jeg tok mine gulrøtter med meg. :-)

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Introduksjoner / Sv: Velkommen GreenReaper!

« på: 23. jun, 2009, 00:45 »

Må innrømme at jeg er litt nysgjerrig på hva som bringer deg på disse kanter, til et forum for norske furs.

Jeg innrømme, jeg har en ikke-så-hemmelig motiv . . . men jeg også gjerne si hei til pels fra andre land.

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For the Norwegian-impaired / WikiFur på norsk?

« på: 23. jun, 2009, 00:33 »

WikiFur has over 1000 visitors a month with Norwegian (Bokmål) set as their browser language [and 15 with Nynorsk . . .]

These people want to read about furry topics. I suspect some would like to write, too, but are not confident enough to do so in English.

There do not seem to be many Norwegian-language furry websites. This forum is great, but a forum is not a very good way to provide organized information. I see the FAQ, but there is room to say much more. (WikiFur's address needs updating to wikifur.com there, too ;-).

I know the Norwegian community does not have that many people, but I think a new website might help with that. So . . . does anyone feel like starting a Norwegian edition of WikiFur?

Timduru and I can provide wiki hosting and advice (as we do for Russian, Spanish and other languages); you would just have to write or translate articles - like these - and organize other editors' contributions.

Our Swedish sister project WikiLurv has created over 150 articles in just a few months. Norwegian could work, too - it just needs a few people to start it.

If you're interested - even if you just like the idea - please let me know here.

Edit: You can use Norwegian to discuss the idea if you don't feel comfortable with English, I can read in translation.

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Introduksjoner / Sv: Små, grønne krusete skapning . . .

« på: 22. jun, 2009, 23:52 »

De hugs . . . kan ikke puste . . . *blir grønnere*

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Introduksjoner / Små, grønne krusete skapning . . .

« på: 22. jun, 2009, 23:16 »

Hei! Jeg heter GreenReaper - grunnleggeren av WikiFur.

Jeg er en små, grønne krusete skapning som liker ost og gulrøtter.

Jeg snakker bare litt norsk, men jeg har en datamaskin til å oversette for meg.

Noen ganger kan jeg ta bilder av furries. Å, og jeg har en LiveJournal. Lese mer her!